tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3313295143497097608.post125592060655252926..comments2023-08-14T16:25:12.421+01:00Comments on Medieval Church Art: Medieval English embroidery good enough for the Holy Roman EmperorAllan Bartonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00499774849106432968noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3313295143497097608.post-47230580360892719312008-11-08T15:56:00.000+00:002008-11-08T15:56:00.000+00:00An Afterthought. I'm not entirely convinced that ...An Afterthought. I'm not entirely convinced that a date in the 1470s is consistent with the work. I would be happier with a date in the early sixteenth century.Allan Bartonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00499774849106432968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3313295143497097608.post-63561835682337814092008-11-08T15:55:00.000+00:002008-11-08T15:55:00.000+00:00I'm quite agree about the provenance. The double ...I'm quite agree about the provenance. The double eagles are absolutely no evidence of a imperial patronage - they are everywhere in late medieval English embroidery. However, I wonder why, given that the date of the embroidery is by no means certain, he would fix such a specific provenance to it. I may email them out of curiosity.Allan Bartonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00499774849106432968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3313295143497097608.post-57616423113094024072008-11-07T22:55:00.000+00:002008-11-07T22:55:00.000+00:00ps Eight or nine years back a rather distressed Op...ps Eight or nine years back a rather distressed Opus Anglicanum seraph of this date was offered on eBay as a fragment of the garment Mary, Queen of Scots had worn to her execution - this notwithstanding that her execution garb was burned immediately afterwards, an order that I imagine was carried out with total efficiency. I would have bid on it, except that some bidders took the provenance seriously and it went close to $1000.00. <BR/><BR/>A warning about provenances on these garments.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3313295143497097608.post-44593463409499012482008-11-07T17:11:00.000+00:002008-11-07T17:11:00.000+00:00The double-headed eagle, originally, I think, a mo...The double-headed eagle, originally, I think, a motif of the Eastern Roman Empire (still to be found in Greek Orthodox churches) is, as you note, common in late medieval Opus Anglicanum, as are the seraphs. Cardinal Morton's cope, on deposit at the V & A, has sports two-headed eagles. There's nothing in the quality of the embroidery to suggest anything other than routine workshop output - certainly not an imperial provenance - and there would be nothing new in a dealer who talks up provenance with an eye to the market. Reasonable, perhaps, for a Continental dealer inexperienced in the iconography of late Opus Anglicanum to mistake the significance of the eagles.<BR/><BR/>The curve of the design suggests that this might be from a cope.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com